Learning from Non-Ordinary States

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August 24, 2010

Learning from Non-Ordinary States

Stanislav Grof August 24, 2010

Tami Simon speaks with Stanislav Grof. For more than half of a century, Stan has been a pioneer in the research of non-ordinary states of consciousness. He is the author of many books including Realms of the Human Unconscious, Beyond the Brain, and most recently Holotropic Breathwork: A New Approach to Self-Exploration and Therapy. With Sounds True, Stan wrote the book When the Impossible Happens: Adventures in Non-Ordinary Realities, and the audio learning program The Transpersonal Vision. Stan discusses the lessons that can be learned from non-ordinary states, the idea of a consciousness independent of the brain, and the uses and goals of holotropic breath work. (67 minutes)

Stanislav Grof, MD, PhD, is a psychiatrist with more than sixty years of experience in the research of holotropic states of consciousness, a large and important subgroup of non-ordinary states that have healing, transformative, heuristic, and evolutionary potential. In the past, he was principal investigator in a psychedelic research program at the Psychiatric Research Institute in Prague, chief of psychiatric research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center, assistant professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, and Scholar-in-Residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California.
Currently, he is professor of psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco, conducts professional training programs in holotropic breathwork and transpersonal psychology, and gives lectures and seminars worldwide. He is one of the founders and chief theoreticians of transpersonal psychology and the founding president of the International Transpersonal Association (ITA). In 2007, he was granted the prestigious Vision 97 Award from the Václav and Dagmar Havel Foundation in Prague, and in 2010 the Thomas R. Verny Award from the Association for Pre- and Perinatal Psychology and Health (APPPAH) for his pivotal contributions to this field. He received an honorary PhD degree from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology (ITP) and in 2018 another one for Psychedelic Therapy and Healing Arts from CIIS in San Francisco.

Among his publications are over 150 articles in professional journals and the books Beyond the Brain, LSD Psychotherapy, The Cosmic Game, Psychology of the Future, The Ultimate Journey, When the Impossible Happens, Healing Our Deepest Wounds, Modern Consciousness Research and the Understanding of Art, The Stormy Search for the Self, Spiritual Emergency, and Holotropic Breathwork. He was also invited as a consultant for special effects in the Metro Goldwyn Meyer science fiction movie Brainstorm and the 20th Century Fox science fiction movie Millenium.
In August 2019, his life’s work encyclopedia, The Way of the Psychonaut, was published and the documentary film about his life and work was released: The Way of the Psychonaut: Stanislav Grof’s Journey of Consciousness. Learn more: thewayofthepsychonaut.com.
In May 2020, Stan and his wife, Brigitte Grof, launched their new training in working with holotropic states of consciousness, the international Grof® Legacy Training. Learn more: grof-legacy-training.com.
Stan and Brigitte have been happily married since April 2016. They live together in Germany and travel the inner and outer worlds in tandem, conducting seminars, trainings, and holotropic breathwork workshops worldwide. Learn more about Stan Grof and his work at stangrof.com.
Author Photo © Brigitte Grof 

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Learning from Non-Ordinary States

Tami Simon speaks with Stanislav Grof. For more than half of a century, Stan has been a pioneer in the research of non-ordinary states of consciousness. He is the author of many books including Realms of the Human Unconscious, Beyond the Brain, and most recently Holotropic Breathwork: A New Approach to Self-Exploration and Therapy. With Sounds True, Stan wrote the book When the Impossible Happens: Adventures in Non-Ordinary Realities, and the audio learning program The Transpersonal Vision. Stan discusses the lessons that can be learned from non-ordinary states, the idea of a consciousness independent of the brain, and the uses and goals of holotropic breath work. (67 minutes)

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