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People like to think that spirituality is supposed to be about being high, feeling love, openness. That’s a very wonderful thing if that’s what’s happening. But true spirituality is about how you handle when that’s not happening. There’s no way you’re going all the way up or even part of the way up until you can handle the lower energies. It’s just the truth. It’s not as though the low energies of the devil is that the lower energies are your blockages, your lower energies are what are keeping you from being high. So at some point you decide, and that’s what we’re going to talk about tonight, how to deal with the lower energies. People ride us all the time with these problems they’re having and they say we’re trying to live the teachings, but it is very, very difficult. So here’s how you live the teachings.
When times are difficult, you start by relaxing. You always start by relaxing. There’s not a single thing in your entire life. You don’t start by relaxing because if you don’t relax, you tense and if you tense, you close. If you close, you get drawn further down into lower energies. So relaxation is the first step and people say, but I try to relax and it doesn’t. I love that nobody said you’re going to get the lower energies to relax. That’s not your job. Your job is can you relax in the face of the lower energies, no one except a great, I suppose a great master, but they don’t do it by working with it can make anger, not be angry, can make jealousy not be jealous, can make security not be insecure. They have their nature. Everything has its nature. The question is, can you handle its nature?
If you see a snake and it’s scary when you’re young, does that mean that you’ll never go hiking, that you’ll never go swimming? They can be in the water. Okay, there are water moccasins and you just let that experience that you had that was scary. It was hard. The question is, did you handle it? And the answer is no. I didn’t handle it. I couldn’t handle it and I didn’t handle it and therefore it stayed inside of me and it will run the rest of your life. It would decide maybe you marry somebody who works with amphibians, the snakes and things and you didn’t know and then they were crawling around in the house. That’s cruel behavior grounds for divorce. Okay? Somebody else says, wow, what a hobby you have. Okay? And it just depends on what you stored inside of you. It’s not right or wrong or good or bad.
So if you don’t handle things, you tense and I’m telling you, if you tense, it stays. It’s that simple. If you tense up, you’re closing and you’re saying the energy of the experience cannot continue its journey through the universe. It can’t continue passing through you. I talked to before, you can’t stop the experience from having happened. It did happen. Then it comes in and it causes different things inside of you. Different ones of you react differently to different things for lots of reasons. The question isn’t why or what or right or wrong or good or bad or just or fair. Ain’t got nothing to do with that ever. It’s got to do with did this happen, yes or no? Yes. Okay, then it happened. Can I handle it? Can I accept the reality of the situation that just took place? If you can’t, it will stay inside of you for your entire life.
And that’s the truth. And you know that that is the essence of psychology. If you can’t handle it, it’s staying inside of you and it’s going to affect the rest of your life, every level of your life. Not to mention spiritual, you ain’t going anywhere with that stuff inside of you. You understand that the only way you’ll ever feel high or love is when something helps you get around. What’s inside of you and I get rid of it has to not touch it. Here’s somebody who talks the way you always wanted, had a dream of somebody who was like them and they’re just right and you trust them and they’re going to be fair. Okay? Now you can feel some love. Why? Because you were closed. Why? Because you stored this stuff inside of you. That’s the only reason you’re close. Nobody’s closed. Everybody’s infinitely open and infinitely filled with love and infinitely filled with God and infinitely filled with ecstasy.
Every single person that is their state until they close, that’s what you close to. That’s what’s so funny. You think you close to what he said or what she did? No. You closed to the love that you’re capable of feeling. A door closed keeps the outside out and the inside in it closes both sides, isn’t it? So if you closed what somebody said or did or something that happened, you didn’t just keep it away from you. You kept your heart from opening, you kept the shakti from flowing inside of you. That’s the essence of understanding spirituality. Every door has two sides. If you close, you’re going to pay the price of both sides. So you start to understand that if you can’t relax when something happens, just the basic thing, okay, it happened. I’m having trouble with it. Not I can relax. If I’m not having trouble with it, I’m talking serious.
You have to be a little relaxed while you’re having trouble with it. Otherwise you’re going to close to it and it’s going to stay inside of you. And I don’t care that you had trouble and you managed to tell somebody to say they’re sorry, you managed to run away and then you didn’t feel so closed. You left the scar in there. You left something inside of you, it’s going to come back. Don’t worry, it will always come back. It’ll come back in your dreams. It will come back in your relationships. It’ll come back as you get older, it’ll come back in your finances. Every single thing that is in there is coming back. All you have to do is hear something, smell something, see a billboard or think something. Bam. She’s back up. Yes or no? Alright. Most people think the name of the spiritual game is to make sure that doesn’t happen.
What? That which brings it back up. No, you got it backwards. The name of the spiritual game is to say, I can’t go anywhere. So that’s gone and it’s not going to be gone until it comes back up. You can’t go up while that thing’s holding you down, there’s no such thing as being open when you’re closed. Your entire being has to be open. Your entire being is used for the ascent. All of that energy inside that you’re using to suppress, that you’re using to avoid, that you’re using to control is being used to protect yourself from yourself. Because the past experience that happened, does anybody have any of those things or known as I’m talking about and we got some scuff in there. You can’t go up with that stuff in there. You can go up a little bit. Like I said, if the situations outside are very conducive to avoiding that stuff, I love you so much.
I’ll never love anybody ever again more than I love you. I would die for you. That sounds pretty good. Maybe I can trust her or trust him, right? Till what? I don’t want to talk about it. Okay? If you need something to open you, you’re going to close. That’s called conditional opening. Doesn’t mean you don’t do it, don’t get me wrong. Doesn’t mean you don’t have relationships, doesn’t mean you don’t work with yourself. But if you need something for you to feel love, that’s called conditional love and those conditions will not always be there. Has anyone noticed? Okay, it looked really promising. Of course did because the energy came in in a way that helped you avoid yourself. Actually, what really happens is your conscious awareness gets distracted from yourself because the other person is interested because the other person is dotting on you. Whatever it is, you get to distracted and while you’re distracted, you don’t have to protect yourself as much because you’re involved in something else and that permits some openness.
The moment that person plays or thing or weather or anything does something that doesn’t match what you want, you’re closing. It’s not free to keep stuff inside of you. It’s extremely costly. It destroys your entire life. Even the slightest thing you keep inside of you will affect the rest of your life. I don’t like floor. It’s so hot. Where do you want to move? All of a sudden I’m looking at the web, whose temperature what I want. Have fun because wherever you go, it ain’t going to work. They’ll have mosquitoes, it’ll have snow. Something will happen because you said there’s something inside of me that I can’t handle and the outside situations are bothering that. So let me try to create outside situations to help me avoid what I’ve stored inside of me. And that is not spirituality. It’s fine. I’d rather have you be somewhat happy and not be depressed all the time and freaking out.
There’s nothing wrong with that. But you want to grow spiritually. You want to understand what it means to be an ecstasy all the time. Shadu come flying out of your heart for as long as you want. Anytime you want, period. That’s who you are. Every single one of you period. And you’ve always been that. Well, why don’t I feel that? Because you closed you to protect yourself from the situations that happened to you. And that door has two sides. So when that door’s closed, the Shakti can’t come up. But for the door to open, you have to face the garbage you stored inside. So all of the spirituality is about getting rid of the stuff you have inside of you. The question then becomes how, and we’re going to talk about that in detail tonight, but you have to understand it’s not about finding some way to have a life that you don’t have to deal with yourself. I did that. Let’s go move out to the woods and be alone and avoid everything. I moved out to the woods. I was meditating hours and hours a day. No worries, no one’s out here and a dog would bark from a half a mile away. Damn dog.
You can’t do it. It doesn’t work. You have to be willing to work with yourself to let go of anything inside of you that would close. But does that mean I don’t deal with situations outside? No, it does not mean that. It means you don’t deal with situations outside because you can’t handle them. That’s not why you deal with them. You deal with them by handling them and then see if there’s something you can do to help. Not to protect yourself, not to draw boundaries. I am willing to let go of if it’s challenging me, I’m willing inside, inside to let go of myself. Now what? You won’t do it perfectly. Even the intent is good enough. You’re not going to sit there and be able to let go of all that stuff. But if that is your intent, that changes everything. So now your intent is to, okay, I got weird.
What do I want to do? Protect myself from what happened or use it to go to God. That’s rom Russell’s line. Use it to let go of myself. Alright, so now I’m trying good situation’s still there. Now that you’re clearer and you’re not reacting to your inability to handle it, can you see there’s something you can do to help the situation? Not to help you. You, you’re letting go of stress. Your ability. Can I help the situation? Can I help the person who did this? Can I help? What’s happening? Is there something I can do? Positive, constructive, not protective, not reactive. And guess what? There always is. It is always the worst thing you can ever do is not be able to handle something. And because you can’t handle it inside, you fight with it outside. That’s like saying get away from my stuff. I want my stuff.
You dare touch that. You hear me? Instead of sitting there saying Uhoh, it’s a growth experience. Time to grow, time to change. And you start working with it. But that doesn’t mean you don’t deal with the outside. But I’m telling you, there’s a big difference between saying I can’t handle this and you’ve been not do that. Go sleep on the couch for three weeks. You get away from me, I’m getting divorced. I’m just push it away because you can’t handle it. As opposed to, alright, this is difficult. Breathe. I want to be able to handle this. I used to in my early days, he was so sincere. He was insane. He was so sincere that if anything happened like that, I would talk to him. Do you want to have to go through this again? What do you mean all the stars are aligned. All nature has now brought to your doorstep that which is freaking you out.
It was always in there. You hear me? But it hit it. Do you want to push it away and do what you can to keep it so you have to deal with it again and you sit there and say, no, I want it to go. I don’t want this inside of me. I don’t want there to be anything inside of me that can’t handle reality. You understand that? Why? Because reality always wins, doesn’t it? Reality In the new book, I define reality. I didn’t have to write a book about it when I went to write it. So I use the word reality a lot. They’re going to want a definition of what is reality. Reality is what already happened. It already happened. You’re not going to change it, period. Nobody has ever changed what already happened. It’s reality. That’s reality and that’s how you deal with yourself.
It happened. If I can’t handle it, then there’s something wrong with me. Not something wrong with it because it’s reality. It has the reasons not right or wrong or good or bad or just or fair. Don’t you kid yourself. I mean go watch. Nature is nature fair tornadoes, go flying through a town and ripping entire streets houses apart and the other streets are fine, nothing. And then the next day the sun comes out just a bombing beautiful day. She never says she’s sorry, does she? It’s called reality. Reality. That’s what it is. We define morals and rights and wrongs and preferences and fair and not fair and just don’t. Those are mental concepts we just make up. We make ’em up. So the people don’t hurt us. If you look at the law, what he’s trying to say is you can have a certain amount of freedom, but the minute you bother somebody else, we better make some laws.
It’s really beautiful to study law like that. Okay, many you bother somebody else. We better make some laws as to who gets to have their way. Okay? These are just, they’re fine. It’s wonderful. You better have some, right? But they’re just human made concepts. They have nothing to do with reality. There’s galaxies out there crashing into each other in black holes, eating all of them, and they never say they’re sorry. Right? You know what we do? We take tell, watch them. Look, they, they star, right? But if one person, oh, you stepped on my toe, how dare you, I’m suing you. Then we have to have laws. Well, that’s not what nature’s about, is it? Okay? So don’t you dare think spirituality is about fairness and justice. It’s not. Spirituality is about can you handle reality. That’s what spirituality is about. Can you handle reality?
Hear me? Is that about right or wrong or good or bad? It’s about can you handle reality? Now, once you are able to handle reality, you are welcome to try and raise the energy in front of you. You’re welcome to try to help. I always say this to everybody, if you can’t stand the side of blood, you can’t handle it. I hope you’re not the first person in my car accident because you can’t help because you have a problem. And that goes for every single thing in life. If you said something to me that offended me, hurt me, bothered me, and I can’t handle it, then I can’t handle my interaction with you. By definition, it doesn’t mean I can’t handle this. It means you can’t handle it. Here. There’s 2000 pounds over there. You can pick it up. No try. No I won’t. I mean I can’t pick it up.
If you can’t handle something, you’re the last person in the world to be dealing with it. But you do, don’t you? How you deal with it by trying to make it go away, by trying to protect yourself from it. That is not handling anything. That’s avoiding handling something that’s pushing something away. So you just get more and more of that stuff stored inside. So spirituality is about understanding that what you call negative energies, lower things, problematic things is because you’re not open, not open. You’re either letting go of what is in there, stopping you from the assent or you’re protecting yourself from what would make you let it go. I’m not letting this go. Don’t you dare do that. I can’t. No, I can’t handle that. I told you not to talk about that. Let’s not go to God. That’s what you’re saying. Let’s not go to God.
I’m keeping that part of my closed being. That is a walking target for anything for the rest of my life to hit. And I’m going to be scared of it and I’m going to protect it and I’m going to do everything in my life to make sure it does not get hit. Do you understand that? Well then you basically said, I’m not going up. The fact that every once in a while something will happen that doesn’t hit your stuff. It helps you avoid your stuff. I told you by distracting your consciousness off of your stuff. That’s wonderful. It’s like go to a movie. Good. Go to a movie. It’s not going to last it. That stuff is still in there and it’s very strong. Alright, so now we’re talking about one, what does it mean to grow spiritually? It means getting rid of that stuff.
Then what? There is no then how you like that when that stuff’s gone, where do you see what happens when that stuff’s even partially gone? Where do you see what happens? Even if you just do a little bit, it changes your whole inner state. Why? Because you used to suppress, you used to push it away. You used to fight with everything. You used to protect everything. You used to be afraid of yourself and everything else. When you learn to let that go, even at the surface, all of a sudden it’s a little bit easier, isn’t it? I said, oh, well that’s easier, right? But then something big is going to come up. I didn’t tell you something big is going to come up. Why? Because it’s in there. I’m not cursing you, I’m just telling you, the more you open at the surface, the more room you leave for the bigger stuff to come up.
If you keep pushing everything down all day, it’s being built on top of the stuff that was already there. Okay? So you don’t have to deal with that. You deal with this stuff. Basically, first rule, if you want to grow spiritually, you have to understand the entire process from beginning to end is about letting go of yourself is about letting go of the stuff you stored in there. I say letting go of yourself. What self, the ego self. What is the ego? The ego is the mask is the protective mechanism that you built around yourself, around the deepest self. Somebody wants ask Yogananda, what is the ego, the masquerading self? That’s so deep and the yoga really understand that you’re in there but you can’t handle what’s going on down there. So you build a mask out of your past experiences. I’m the person who likes this and doesn’t like this and this is my self-concept and this is what I agree with.
If I don’t agree with it, here’s my politics and here’s this and here’s that, and here’s what I wear and here’s what I never would wear. You build a you out of these past experiences and it ends like a mask and you present it to everybody. Here I am. You like me? No. Okay, I’ll be like this. Alright? And so it’s all about letting go of that mask, but you’re not going to let it go. It’s very strong. Why is it strong? Because you need it to be strong. Why you built it? Because you can’t handle things. And so you wake up and you realize I ain’t getting anywhere like that. That’s like an anchor that’s keeping me down. That’s where all the darkness comes from. That’s where all the disturbance comes from, is this stuff you stored in there. Okay? So first line is the entire purpose of spirituality, the entire purpose of your life and all the spiritual growth is about letting go of what’s holding you down.
It’s not about finding a way to go up, even though you have stuff holding you down. There’s nothing wrong with that. Do what you need to do, but understand until you are willing to let go of what’s holding you down, it’ll just be a visit. Oh, I had this deep experience. Oh, I took this drug. Oh, I fell in love in it. It just felt it was such a beautiful experience. I’ve never experienced like that before in my life. It probably never will again either because it was new and it got around your stuff. Next time you’re going to say, well, I don’t know if I can trust her. I don’t know. I felt so open. People say it to me, oh my God, I felt so open. It scared me. Hello. Right? You’re afraid of yourself. Do you understand that? And when you open, that’s what’s coming up.
And so the first rule of spiritual growth is it’s not what you think it is. It’s not about managing to stay high, even though you got this stuff in there. It’s a matter about saying, fine, I’m glad to get high and glad to get the energy. Very nice. I’m not renouncing anything, but I know it’s not about managing to avoid myself. It’s about using the energy of high master said, make hay with the sunshines. That’s what he means. When things are going okay, you use that energy to be willing to let go of yourself, to feel stronger, have a relationship. I love you, I feel good in your presence, but I’m not using this to keep that relationship. I’m using this to go to God. I’m using what I get from this relationship. This openness is love to be strong enough to let go of myself.
And believe me though, I love you so much, you will be a very good catalyst for me to let go of myself. This I guarantee you. Why? Because your heart is open and that’s where you store your stuff. Spiritual teacher once said, the root of the mind is in the heart. What that means is when you shove stuff away from your mind and away from yourself, you are shoving it down into your Shakti flow. You’re shoving it down into your heart. And that’s why the root of the mind is in the heart because the heart is trying to push that stuff up. I wrote this in great detail in living, untethered your mind’s. Neurosis is not a bad thing. It is the heart attempted to cleanse the garbage you stored in there, pushing it out and it hits the mine. So like throwing leaves into a still lake is going to get all these ripples.
That’s where all the garbage comes from. Alright, so now we’re going to move toward technique. I don’t teach techniques, but we’ll see what happens. Why? If you have the intent, that is your technique. If you understand it’s about cleansing and that is your intent, you really don’t need anything else. Just be true to that intent that whatever happens, if it hits my stuff, good, there’s an to let go the best I can. And that’s how you live the rest of your life. And if you do that, don’t you worry about a thing. But in the meantime, what happens is this. We got this stuff in there and that’s the cause of all disturbance, period. How do you know that? Because if it wasn’t in there, you’d feel shati and you’d be so filled with SHA that you couldn’t care about anything and you’d be able to deal with things much better.
But if you’re not feeling the Shakti and somebody hits your stuff, you go down. What does that mean? You go down. You don’t go anywhere. Your consciousness gets pulled down into the lower energies. Talk about this the other day. Lower energies are very powerful. They’re gross, they’re heavy. So they pull your conscious down into them. If we’re sitting here talking, all of a sudden a bright light flashes. That’s where your consciousness is going and a loud noise happens. Every single one of you turns toward the noise. Your consciousness gets distracted by the loudest mouse. Powerful thing. And right now, the most loud powerful thing inside of you is your garbage. And boy, something touches it. Bam. You go, boom, right down, dear. Don’t you? It pulls you down. It’s hard to stay out, isn’t it? So now what do you do if you’re in a situation like that, for example, someone says she has a lot of guilt.
Guilt about her life. I’ve grown tremendously, but now I look back at the things I did before and I feel guilty. Alright, so there people do that. Here’s how you would deal with that. Let’s just get right down to what? How do I deal with that’s bothering my heart? Because sorry that I behave like that and hurt people and I would never do that. I don’t know what to do. I feel so guilty. I don’t want to see anybody. Okay, fine. Here’s how you do it. You bring your higher self, your higher consciousness to bear, and you sit there and be strict. You be strict with yourself. You ask if that same situation happened again, would you behave the same way? And every single time they look at me like, no, of course not. You know what that means? You grew. That’s what it means.
And guess what? That’s a wonderful thing. And you have the right to grow and that’s why you’re here. So to feel guilty because you grew, that’s ridiculous. To let what you grew into the higher part of your being, judge what used to be that you’re not anymore. That’s where guilt comes from. Unless by the way, if you purposely do something to hurt somebody right now, I hope you feel guilty, okay? Because you got some growth to go through. But if you look back in your life, to me, what it looks like is this, you failed and stayed back in third grade math. You now have a doctorate in advanced mathematics. You better be embarrassed. You failed third grade. How ridiculous is that? Okay? Turns out that you just failed third grade. You worked so hard. That’s why you ended up in a path of mathematics.
It was a wonderful thing that you fail. Third grade, every single thing, if you use it properly is a growth experience. It’s teaching you. And that’s great. And you have the right to learn. Or if you’re learning sports, say tennis, you’re going to hit the ball into the net sometimes. Now you’re a great tennis player, but you’re embarrassed to see your coach who’s coaching you and you stayed into the net. No, I don’t want to think about it. Oh my God, that’s ridiculous, isn’t it? You should look back at the hidden net and say, thank you, thank you. You taught me, you taught me to be better than that. That’s what your whole life is. There’s no shame, no blame, no guilt. If you can sit there and say, if it happened again, I would never behave like that. I’ve grown way past that. You should rejoice.
You should look at whatever happened and every single thing that ever, if you’re growing spiritually, you look back at your past and you kiss it every bit of it. Thank you, thank you. You made me the man I am today, didn’t it? Unless you didn’t bother growing, then it’s just screwed you up. But that’s your choice. If you used it, if you were married and it ended up in a divorce, a really ugly divorce, and you learned from it. You learned about what you did in a relationship. You learn how to deal with people better. You just learned a million things. Then if you see the person ever again inside you say thank you. Thank you for being a catalyst for this tremendous growth I went through. You should love your entire path. If your parents are screwed up and they did this and did that, love every bit of what they put you through because you made it through it, you’re stronger because of it.
There are childhoods you can go through. By the time you make it through, you look back and you say, wow, I love it because I will never ever be challenged that much the rest of my life. Abusive parents, this and the other thing, or alcoholics. People go through all kinds of things. Should you feel bad about that? No. If you made it through that and you’re not screwed up, you should feel good about yourself. And then you look back at mommy and daddy, your brother or sister and inwardly you say thank you. Thanks for the growth. Do you understand that you don’t want to hold stuff inside of you? Learn to appreciate your growth. Learn to appreciate the situations you go through in life that force you to grow. It’s like people talk about a coach. Just go to adv L. Football coaches or basketball coaches, this different stuff.
They yell at people. No, don’t go there. Not to go over there right in the middle of the game. That’s embarrassing. No, no. That’s what a coach does. He encourages you to be better. But he yelled at me. He’s always picking on me. They pick on him, don’t they? He’s always picking on me. This is not fair. No, life is your coach. Life is encouraging you to be great, isn’t it? And you think it’s knocking you down. Life is not knocking you down. Life is you presenting you with situations that you work with in order to become great, in order to become better than you are right now. Okay? So first, when a thing happens, it’s going to hit your stuff. Let’s get this straight. Everybody has stuff you’re going to understand. Fully enlightened master, he said to the day he died, God challenged him. Something would happen that caused him to let go. Causing to deal with stuff. Nice to hear them say that. Okay, well you got a little bit more than that, right?
You got a lot of stuff in there. And the purpose of your growth, of your spiritual growth is to go through every minute of every day of your life. Remembering the meaning of my life is not to protect my stuff. I made me cry. That’s not the meaning of my life. To protect myself from myself. And you do do that, don’t you? No. That can’t be the meaning of my life. That’s like buying into my garbage. The meaning of my life is to be willing to allow life to bring up the stuff that’s there. They can’t bring up what’s not there. Don’t worry. The person next to you is having no problem at all with the fact that your husband’s talking a little close with somebody else. Ask them what? Who. Okay? It’s your stuff and you have to own it. And like I said, it doesn’t mean you don’t deal with stuff, but first you deal with yourself always, every single time that what witness conscious is about.
I’ve meditated, I’ve worked myself. I’m conscious enough to see that this is my stuff’s coming up. And the ego will always tell you to fight it. It will always tell you to run. It will always tell you to defend yourself. Ego’s nature, the ego came from defending itself. So you just notice it and you say, time to go to God. Something starts coming up instead of, oh no, what am I going to do? Time to go to God, time to grow, time to grow spiritually. And then you do the best you can. Alright, what do you do? First you relax. Alright, so you stay conscious. Then your intent is I want to the best of my ability. When we’re all come up at once, don’t worry, you will let it right? But I want at least a little peace. Some of it’s going out. I’m going through this situation and I’m going to have less in here tonight than I had this morning.
I told you that when you grow spiritually, when you wake up the next morning, you’re a different person that went to bed the day before that you had let go of some of that stuff during that day you hear me and die and say how much it’s the best you can. Okay? Now how do you do that? There’s so many techniques. One technique that’s taught to you, and I used to try it and found out that it’s not that healthy, not that good, is to be strong, is to push it away, is to say, get back. Go. Bam. Yeah, get away, okay? And you get to the point where you realize, I don’t know if the child’s misbehaving, beating him doesn’t really do that much good. And you learn compassion. Well, compassion for everybody else, no compassion for the fact that that being inside of you is a mess because you made it a mess.
You shoved every single thing that ever disturbed you inside of you. You stored it inside of you. If you store everything inside of that disturbs you, you’re going to be disturbed. And I’m telling you, whether you think so or not, you’ve stored every single thing. You had trouble handling that disturbed, you pushed it away and stored it inside. What think it’s going to be like in there, right? It’s like taking a kid every time they misbehave, lock ’em in a closet and then someone convinced you that’s not really that healthy. You think the kid’s going to be loving to you when he gets out. You got some work to do, hear me. Well, you got some work to do. So that little being in there, who’s all screwed up? You know what I’m talking about? You need to work with it. You need to raise it.
You need to talk to it. You need to have compassion. You need to look at it as this little broken little thing that can’t handle things because it’s been locked in a closet. You suppress it. You’re locked in a closet, you push it away. So you start by looking at it saying, okay, relax. And then say, what’s coming up that’s causing this disturbance in my heart, in my mind, all this noise is the garbage that I stored down there. One, do you want it to come up or do you want to keep it in there? And your intent is, I am going to use this to let go of something. Now, what do you do? Do your best to relax. Like I said, what you think, relax your heart. If I say relax your heart, your heart is not going to relax in the midst of jealousy or in the midst of insecurity, but around the edges of your heart, you can relax.
Here’s your heart. It’s tense. It’s spewing stuff it Okay? I’m showing you with my hands. You can if you’re listening, you can’t see it on the outside, outside. Give it some distance. Relax there. That gives it some room, a little bit of room to let go of some stuff. Say partially open. What else can you do? This is when mantra comes in. Very, very good. The really good mantra for the western world is, I can handle this. I can handle this. You start talking to it. That’s a really nice mantra. In the midst of that, I can handle this. I can handle this Yogananda, he wrote poems all the time, made sang songs. What’s your mantra? God, God, God, God. Let your mind learn to say something really beautiful and really high, such as the name of God or whatever while you’re going through this so that it doesn’t draw you down into it.
Sometimes people ask me, aren’t you suppressing? No. What you’re doing is keeping your consciousness at a higher level while cleansing is taking place. There’s nothing wrong with that. You do not have to go down in there and okay, I’m ready. Dive in. Let me see how screwed up. I can feel you’re in there and you can raise yourself. You can sit there and say, alright, this garbage that I stored inside of me is causing a lot of trouble. It hurts like hell. My being ripped apart. My mind complaining about, Hey, you like it? Isn’t it fun? Okay, yes or no? Alright. It is just going on no matter what. Right? I have some work to do with him or her and I’m willing to do it. So you relax a little bit. You look at it and you decide, I want to go through this.
And then you can mantra. A very powerful mantra is I always teach this here. I didn’t say Watch my hand, God, God, God, and just use the name of God to beat that thing back down. That’s not how you use a mantra. You sit there and say, this stuff’s going on down there. It’s welcome to go on, but I don’t have to live there. I don’t have to hang out while it’s going on. If I have a cut, I’ll just stare at it all the time. I can give it some time to heal, right? So you say God’s name, you say how much up high up here. God, don’t fight with your mind. Just let that be something you’re doing with your mind. God, God, God. What’s the purpose of that? At least it’s not, you didn’t let your conscience get pulled all the way down.
And I’m telling you that’s one of the powers of mantra is you left room for the cleansing to take place, but you have to like the cleansing. You have to like what’s going on because it’s healing you. It’s helping you, it’s giving you freedom. But what if it’s really bad? What if my heart hurts really, really bad? Well then it’s a really good time to make sure you’re doing some work on yourself. But don’t expect, don’t sit there and go to the lecture like I talk like I gave you and say, Mickey said if I relax and do a mantra, it’s going to go away. He did not fuck. He did not say that in any way, shape or form. He said better to try to work with it little by little. Raise it than to get lost in it than to put all your conscious down into it and try to push it away and complain.
This, you hear me? That’s what the mind does. All your mind will do is having trouble trying to figure out, this isn’t a thing I shouldn’t do. How could he say it to me? What am I going to do about it? Trying to figure out a way out and trying to figure out a way that I don’t have to deal with this. Okay, well fine. Let it do that. That’s the stuff you stored down there from the past, not knowing what to do. So it comes back up in your mind. And so now your mind starts talking like that. I remember just the same thing. My mother isn’t that funny here? You’re 55 years old, you’re having a relationship and somebody says something does something that really hurts you. Watch your mind. My mother used to talk to me like that. I can’t believe you said your mother, she’s been dead for 30 years.
So what’s the battle with you? What’s that doing in there? It does come up, doesn’t it? And so you welcome it up. You can do things like a mantra or you can do music. It is not avoiding your growth to willfully accept what’s happening and work with yourself to keep your consciousness at a higher level, to keep your consciousness able to express in a different way. But don’t push, don’t use it here. There’s two different things. When I’m freaking out, I just turn on acid rock as loud as it can possibly be. So I can’t even hear my mind talking. No, that’s not what I mean by used music. What I mean is this thing is a trouble and it’s hard. So you play the piano, you take an instrument, you express yourself while this is happening, but you keep the door open, it helps you stay open.
It’s not a way of avoiding what’s going on. It’s a way of opening while it’s going on. So every single thing you go through has the ability to have you work with it. Your whole spiritual growth is about raising yourself. It’s not about trying to find ways that everyone’s trying to find ways that this stuff doesn’t get hit. I need to find ways that my stuff doesn’t get hit because I can’t handle my stuff getting hit a yogi or a yoga need. That’s not their purpose of life. You don’t have to go out of your way to get it hit, don’t worry. Life will take very good care of you. Alright? It’s your guru, it’s your teacher. But you have to be willing to say if something’s getting hit, that’s good. You change your whole attitude. Instead of saying, I can’t handle this. I take you to a neutral level.
You neutralize. At least I’m not pushing it back down. I’m not freaking out. I’m not blaming everybody. You understand that there’s a higher state. You don’t want to hear it though. I love this. I love growth. I love the cleansing. I love the experience of the heart being torn to pieces. What does that mean? It means the energy was blocked in there and now something played with those blockages. And go ahead. I love it because all I want is liberation. All I want is freedom. And I will go through anything. And that’s what this is. When you can get to the point where you love your growth, you love it, it wouldn’t be bothering me if it wasn’t in there. You’d be willing to let go of yourself. You’re not going to be good at this. Do you understand? It is not a natural ego thing to do, but it is a beautiful thing to do.
Sit there and say, if anything challenges my heart or challenges my mind, I’m going to use it to go to God. And what does that mean about the outside? All of a sudden, I’m not shoving it back onto you who said something or did something alright? And it’s just amazing what happens when you’re willing to use life to go to God. Master’s favorite line from the Bible, I think it was in the front of autobiography, was Seek he first. The kingdom of God and his righteousness and all things should be added unto you. That is something I’ve seen in my life. It’s not like you decide, oh, I want to be rich. Oh, I want to a relationship. Oh, I’ll attract it to myself by praying to God. You can do that, that’s fine, but that’s not what it says. It doesn’t say, decide what you want and then pray to God.
It’ll give it to you. It does not say that. Or learn mantras that attracted it to you. It says, seek he first the kingdom of God’s righteousness. What does that mean? Let go of yourself. I let that seeking that intent to grow, be first and foremost. Be the pole star of your life. You do that and all things will be added to you, but you better not do it because you want all things added to you. You see a difference, right? Because then that’s what’s first that you want yourself to be first. Did anybody hear the difference? Okay, so somehow they miss that line. It’s a life of abundance. Give your life to God and all good things will happen. It doesn’t say that. It says give your ego your whole self, your personal self. Let it be taken away from you and everything gets attracted to you.
That’s the natural law of attraction. I don’t teach a law of attraction. Is it there? Of course it’s there. But should you be using it to say, I’m not okay with something, so I’m going to attract what I need so that I’ll be okay with what happens? No. That’s like I’m going to use the law to protect myself instead of getting rid of myself. The law of attraction is I will just keep letting go. Keep letting go. And then you’ll see things come. See we get attracted. So basically we talked about the negative energies and they’re not negative. That’s like saying, I have a soar. It’s bad. No, it needs to be healed. It is going through stuff. It doesn’t look good. The body’s trying to heal itself. How dare you call that bad yicky or terrible. Something’s wrong. Hide it. It’s something very special is taking place.
Sometimes somehow something went wrong and other body’s trying to heal itself. That’s what the pain in your heart is. That’s what the struggles in your mind are. They’re the attempt to push that garbage that you stored in there out of you. But where’s it going to go? Well, it’s going to go through the heart. Is it going to go through the mind? If you let it pass through, ultimately just relax through it. Whoa, wait. It what happens to you because it’s cleansing your stuff. That’s what happens with the body healing itself. It’s exactly the same. Your heart and your mind have an immune system just like your body does. But for your body to throw out impurities, it has to make the temperature go high or make this happen or something has to throw the impurities out. Your heart and your mind do not want that stuff in there.
They do not want you taking the ugliest, worst thing that happened in your life that you couldn’t handle, then shoving it down into your heart. So they do, but they push it back up. You can’t handle it. You think it’s wrong. You have to get to the point where you love it. I love it. I love every second of it. Robert Christians used to say, Helter skelter come with may. Just bring it on. So if you want to grow, really grow, you have to be willing to let this stuff go. How you go about it is your business. And I’m not, nobody’s saying it’s about renunciation. Nobody’s saying that if you meet somebody, it makes you feel better. That’s wonderful. But I understand it’s conditional. It’s conditional. If it opened you, it means you were closed. And if it opened you, it can close you.
Have you noticed that? Was that like we always hurt the one we love, the one we shouldn’t hurt at all? Of course you do because your hearts are open. So take the attitude I took birth to go to God. That is the entire purpose and meaning of my life, is to leave with less than I came down with. I assure you that as the purpose of your life, you make sure when you’re on that deathbed, that you look back and say, wow, did I grow? Did I learn by being put in that washing machine? I love it. And I wouldn’t change a thing. Oh boy. And I want you to be that way. Not just in your death bed, but on your bed every night and every morning. Okay? Thank you for listening about the deep stuff.
Jai Guru Dev.
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