E87: The Path to Nonduality

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Michael Singer: Jai Masters. I have a very, very deep teaching, which we don’t normally touch because it gets very intellectual. People like to think about it, but we’re going to build a ladder, a very logical, understandable, attainable ladder to the very deep teaching. It’s very zen, very, very deep. It’s called non-duality. You’ve probably all heard of it. The non dualist teachings that the great ones go into a state of non-duality. There’s a lot of intellectual stuff out there. Science, physics, this, that, everything about non-duality, the non-dual state of the whole movement about non-duality. We can talk about what it means or we can talk about how to get there. I want to talk about how to get there. So for example, let’s start something simple. There are these things called cars. I heard of ’em. They say there’s a bunch of cars driving by. You say, I saw a car.

Somebody’s into sports cars said I saw Ferrari. Somebody’s into electric vehicles said I saw a Tesla. Somebody was into Mustangs. I saw a 67 Mustang. They didn’t see a car. They saw the differentiation. What’s that gap between the type of car, the type of this and a car? Your mind. You didn’t see the Ferrari of a car. You didn’t see a red car, right? You saw cherry, apple, red. Your favorite color. Your mind is making that distinction based upon what your past experiences. Otherwise they’re cars. So in a sense, there’s non-duality in the world. Of course you have not forced a differentiation. I should have started earlier. There’s these called clouds. Have ever heard of ’em? Okay, they go by all the time they’re clouds. Well, are they Swiss or nimbus or whatever? Okay. Or are they shaped like your grandfather’s wheelchair or do they remind of it looks like Mother Mary, you’re doing that.

They’re clouds. It is you that’s making them be different than clouds. You’re creating these distinctions that exist in your mind. What color is the car? It wasn’t blank. What color is your house? I don’t remember. How can I remember the color of your house? It doesn’t matter to me. What color is your bicycle when you’re fifth grade? Did it leave an impression on you enough on your mind so that when you interact with somehow confront the concept of your bicycle in your fifth grade, it brings up all kinds of stuff that creates differentiation. It was your bike. It wasn’t a bike, it was my bike. So you can start to understand that there is a state what? That there’s no color, that there’s no bicycle types, that there’s no car types, that there’s no cloud shapes. No, but there’s still clouds. They’re clouds because your mind is not making them be different.

You’re not differentiating. Is it wrong to differentiate? No. Is it right to no? It’s just there are lots and lots of things that you don’t differentiate about that other people do. Ever seen an ant seen ants? Ants running around? What kind was it? What’s its category in the phy? I don’t know. It’s an ant there. You didn’t create duality. It is your mind that’s doing that. It does not have to do that. Why would you do that? Because you have interest in it. You have a personal interest in the color, a personal interest in the shape. What if you don’t, and there are lots of things in your life you do not have that kind of personal interest about. There are just cars there, they’re just clouds and you’re perfectly happy having them be cars and clouds. Is it better to know what type it is and how many cylinders it has? No.

It’s just if you want to, you can do that, but there has to be a reason for you doing that. You don’t do with the ants, you don’t do it with the roaches. How many types of roaches are there? I don’t know. I’m not interested. Okay, so I’m not saying that duality is bad. I’m saying there is such a thing as non-duality concerning these things in your life. White lawns on the road, are they yellow or white? Tell me the last ones you drove by. I don’t know. You probably don’t even know if they’re solid or ash because you don’t pay attention. But if you’ve ever got in a car accident and you got tickets because you pass on a double line, you know what those are because they left an impression on your mind. Do you understand that? Good. I’m just laying that foundation.

Okay, now let’s go to something else. Noses or dead nose, son, I’m going to do noses again. How much do you judge a person because their nose, some people do some people, some people have an adorable nose. Alright, I got a big nose. I got a Roman nose. Good nose. What are you doing? It’s a nose. Can you be non-dual about a nose, yes or no? We’re getting there. It’s a little more personal than the car, but people do with noses. They pick ’em out. If you’re go to have a nose job, you can look at pages and pages and pages of noses. That’s amazing. How many, which one do you want? What’s wrong with the one they have? You can have your nose job. There’s nothing wrong with it. Nothing’s wrong with anything. I’m just trying to get you to understand the depth of non-duality.

So many of you don’t do that about noses. Many of you don’t do that about dresses or jeans. You just put your clothes on, you make a special occasion. You might make a distinction, but in general, it puts your stupid clothes on. Some people, are you kidding me? They stand before that mirror for 15 minutes every morning trying on two to three, you’re blushing. Two to three different outfits. That’s duality. That’s non-duality. See, it’s very common understandable thing, not some mystical, weird discussion, but we’re staying low so far we’re staying just down here with a couple of different things. Okay, so you see you can do it with clouds. You see, you do it with cars, you see you do with noses. I’m going to take a giant step. Can you do it with people? What do you mean we’re all the same? Just like the clouds are the same, just like the cars are the same until you need to make a distinction.

We’re the same. Be a martian. Come down here. What do you see people, they generally have two legs and two arms and noses and a couple of eyes and that’s what they see. Well, a male female. What are you talking about? I didn’t check. I don’t know what you mean. They’re just people. Can you go that far? Have I lost you yet? Can that be non-dual? Imagine if you didn’t need to see genders. It doesn’t mean you can’t. It doesn’t mean you’re blind. It means you’re not making an internal differentiation because of your past experience, your needs, your desires, your hopes, your dreams, your fears because of the stuff you have inside. Imagine being non-dual about something as big as gender or about people. What about nationality? Now as big deal with nationalities, right? It’s not that hard to imagine. You meet a person, there’s a person where do I care where they’re from?

What’s the difference? There’s the lion. You artificially drew on the planet earth. They’re not there. Go out without the astronauts. They don’t see them. They have a thing called an overview effect. Their lives change when they’re in outer space because they look and they see there are no countries. There’s just this globe that’s floating in empty space and it can change you so that you get less dual. You less are interested in the differences and you’re seeing the unification when starting high, aren’t we? Okay, so John Lenon, imagine there are no countries. Imagine there’s this. Imagine that it’s easy if you try, okay? It’s like you can’t do it because you have these samaras impressions that have been made on you based on your past experiences, based on what people have taught you and so on. There you are. That’s it. You can do anything you want with anything, but you are doing it.

Food is food. People are people. There is no difference between male and female at that level. If you need there to be just like the car. Do you hear me? It is tough. I know talking deep to you. If you need there to be a difference, there’s a big difference. If you don’t need there to be a difference, there is no difference. Do you see what I’m telling you? You are doing it, but people will sit there and something intellectual will say, but look, there’s a difference. Yes, there’s a car type, yes, there’s a cloud shape, but if the difference doesn’t make any difference, there’s no difference. It makes sense to you. You’re working your way up to a non-dual state. Why do you see a difference? Because it distracts your Now I’m going to go there. It distracts your consciousness. If I’m driving down the street and the cars are driving by and they don’t pull my consciousness down into the thought patterns about the type of car and the type of gender and the type of this and the type of nose, then it doesn’t do that.

It doesn’t pull me down. What happens when they put you down? You get to stay up starting to get there about the non-dual state. Okay, so now we have people, now we have animals, now we have living creatures and you have plants and you have a planet and you have a galaxy and they’re just what is? They’re not anything that you need to make a difference about. Imagine if you were in that state, it means your consciousness is not being drawn down into differentiation. That is the non-dual state. It’s not that you’re going to argue there’s no difference. Of course there’s a difference, but there’s not enough of a difference to distract your consciousness. That’s the key. And a great master lives in a state where there is not enough difference to distract their consciousness. I quote you from the Gita all the time. My favorite part from the, again, paraphrasing from the Gita where Christians told Aruna Christian being God Jah disciple.

There are these beings that are very high, they’re very evolved, they’re enlightened. They self-realized in the highest state and are Jah said. How will I know him Sits, he walks, he talks like any other man and Christian said, you will not know him like that. He sits, he walks, he talks like other man if you would know him, enjoy. He’s noted and sorrows not over sorrow. He lets goodness come when it will and when it will depart and lets darkness come when it will. And Wills depart. He walks as a stranger. Sojourner Amids, the qualities of nature that’s differentiation, the qualities of nature. Yin young. He walks as a stranger amidst the changes and qualities of nature just as all the rivers and streams of the earth pour into the ocean and the ocean doesn’t overstep its bounds. So the world of sense pours into the yogi and leaves him as it found him.

Serene. Content at peace. Equanimity is yolk. That’s what I just talked to you about. It’s not renunciation. I can tell you go real deep with these talks all it’s not about renunciation. If you’re practicing renunciation, I want to know what you decide what to renounce. You announce jewelry, you couldn’t care less about jewelry. There’s a high play of the game. It’s ash Wednesday and you’re supposed to renounce something, right? And I’m supposed to eat something. I do not like Brussels friends. That’s what I renounce. That doesn’t count. It has to be something you care about. How did you decide what you care about? Your past impressions, stuff inside of you is distracting you and you practice renunciation. That’s all renunciation is what you renounce admits where you’re caught a great being. Doesn’t renounce anything because everything’s the same. There no distinction. You get up in the morning, oh hi, you go through the day, hi.

Hey, how are you doing? Hey, hello. What can I do? How can I help? It’s the same all the time. It’s giving unfolding. Nothing’s distracting your consciousness to pull it into differentiation. It’s very deep stuff. Does that make sense to you? Do you understand that nothing is distracting. Your awareness of being enough to where you just don’t see the hole as it is. It’s a planet spin through space. What’d you do today? A 360. Okay, what’d you do this year? Big 360. I did a revolution around a star there. That’s what you did. You kind of got a little more differentiation, didn’t you, about what you did today, what you did this year. What if didn’t? What your consciousness is so evolved is so high that it doesn’t get pulled down. Mean that you see it. You can do your work, but it doesn’t leave an impression.

You go there, you go to work, the boss yells at you, he compliments you. Somebody else gets the task you want or you get the task you want. Who cares? It doesn’t do anything. You’re just open and you’re experiencing. What you’re experiencing is not leaving impressions on you to where you get up in the morning. The boss criticized you today. You get up in the morning, can’t wait to go to work. Same as the day before. Who cares? It doesn’t matter. You don’t have to announce it. It’s not that you I handled it. No, you didn’t handle the fact that the cloud looked like your grandfather’s wheelchair. You didn’t even come down enough to make a thing out of it that you had to handle it. You’re evolved enough to where you’re up here, you’re not down there and you’re seeing things as they are, but just at a much bigger non-differentiated state.

That’s a very deep state. The third then patriarch talks about this. He says The great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. How do you have preferences? You’ve had impressions from the past and you either want that to happen again or you don’t want to happen again. See, there’s a deep end teachings that so complicated. Is it the great way? Enlightenment is not difficult for those are no preferences. And he says when the love and hate are both absent, he means like and dislike. When love and hate are both absent, everything becomes clear. And undisguised make the slightest distinction. However, and heaven and earth is set infinitely apart. If you wish to know the truth, hold no opinion for or against anything. Now a normal western mind has no idea what that’s talking about, but I’ve taken you there a little bit.

If you don’t have these, some scars, these impressions that you kept inside yourself, you don’t differentiate. You just experience and the experience you have is always beautiful. It’s always deep. Some people can’t handle night, some people can’t handle day, they party all night. The other people are afraid of the night. You have these impressions inside. There’s day and there’s nights. So what? There’s male and there’s female. So what? There’s rich and there’s poor. So what? There’s all these yin yang differentiations, but if you don’t need them to pull you down out of your high state, they don’t pull you down. And that’s where a great master is. They’re experiencing everything. It’s just not making a mess inside of them. And so it starts to become non-dual. If you don’t see differentiation, why do you care? You don’t get distracted by it. And so you go deeper and deeper and ultimately you transcend your personal self.

That alone, the fact that they’re your thoughts, are they your thoughts? They’re your thoughts and you care about ’em, don’t you? They’re your emotions and you care about those a lot, don’t you? It’s your world. The one you see, the house when you get home, the car that you drive, the wife, the husband, they’re all mine I, me and mine and darn well. Doesn’t mean your kid and somebody else’s, your spouse and somebody else’s spouse. There’s no difference just sitting on a planet. Spin nowheres, making these things up for once in your life. Understand the teep TEEP teachings. It doesn’t mean you’re immoral. Understand that it means you are okay. You’re fine with everything. Does that mean you don’t work to raise things? No, you do, but it’s not personal. So let’s go back to your thoughts, your emotions, your body. Great masters, they’ve transcended the sense of body consciousness.

Once Robert Krishna, a very great master, fully enlightened, then he got cancer of the throat and they brought doctors in are Vedic doctors. This kind of stuff is in India. And the disciples loved him tremendously. He was such a great being and he was staying in his room all the time because he wasn’t well. And they brought this doctor in and the doctor came out ecstatic, smiling, happy, and the disciples went up to him and said, what happened? What’d you see? I said, his Shakti is so strong, his Shakti is so strong. If three times a day he just concentrates on his throat, it will heal. He can heal his throat with the power of his energy. And the sap was so happy, they were ecstatic. They went into the master, said Master, we can get rid of this. Alright, you’re Shakti. Your energy flow is strong enough to be able to create healing.

And he was like a little boy. He said, oh, okay, good. He wanted to do what disciples wanted to do. A couple hours later they walked by his room and he was crying, totally innocent. He was crying and they went and they said, master, what’s wrong? He said, you know how much I love you all and I want to do what you told me to do. I really do, but I can’t. And they said, why can’t you master? The doctor said, that’s not that. He said, I spent my life putting my entire consciousness at mother’s feet. I’m not taking it off for a second because of this thing down there. So he called his body this and he didn’t. He said, I’m leaving my consciousness on God. I’m not bringing it down here to heal this thing. Yoga now did the same thing. He was in a wheelchair later part of his life and they would always fuss over him and this and that and we hope you up mess.

At one point he yelled at them, he said, don’t talk to me about this body. It’s not of a bundle of troubles and sooner to get rid of it the better. They don’t identify with their body. They don’t identify with their thoughts, they don’t identify with their emotions. Somebody once ask strong a Christian again, doesn’t enlighten being ever feel anger? He said Yes, but it’s like writing on water. How does it last? When you write on water, write yourself an essay on water. I want to read it. Everything passes through. That’s the non-dual state. There’s no difference between all emotions. There are just emotions. There are things that come up as energy and you experience them the same. You experienced them all and if you’re that far gone, there’s no duality. Your emotions are non-dual. What did you feel an emotion seeing? One seen them all.

How would you like to be there? Like clouds in the sky. That’s what it means to become non-dual. If somebody’s complimenting you or somebody’s criticizing you, it’s exactly the same. What do you mean it’s noises coming out of somebody’s mouth? I told you if you have trouble, we’re going to talk more about personal growth. I really, I’ve never talked about not dwell this way, okay? If you have trouble with somebody said, in fact if they’re talking to you and you’re having trouble listening, there’s this little switch back behind your ears. You’ll find it someday. You turn it and it changes the language that they’re speaking in. Just turn that dial and you’re hearing noise come out under your mouth. Oh, it’s pretty. You can do that. You don’t do it. Why? Because you get distracted because you are not non-dual. You are seriously dual. That cloud looks like my grandfather.

I’m serious. Come here. Look at it. Come. No, I’m taking pictures. I go. I hire a videographer. I want everyone to see this and publish articles. Well, you’re caught baby. It’s a cloud. Their words aren’t they’re words. Whatever language is spoken, their words, it’s because you can’t handle them. They draw your consciousness down not to the words, to the effect the words have on your inner being. You’re doing it. So what spiritual growth means is you don’t do that. You don’t do that. You don’t create differentiation where there isn’t any. But I know you’ll fight with me and say there is a differentiation. There is male female, there is this, there is yeah there and there’s a planet earth spin around the middle of nowheres. Now it was a differentiation. You get off the planet, show what’s going on. Remember 1.3 million earth sit inside the sun and there’s 300 billion suns in your galaxy and there’s 2 trillion galaxies.

What exactly is bothering you but you won’t live there. Okay? And that’s what we’re talking about. So the non-dual state, the true non-dual state doesn’t mean you’re arguing based on physics or this or that or meditation. Oh, it’s really a non-dual. It means you don’t neither to be duality. Therefore there isn’t. I don’t care what it socks look like. I don’t care how you wear your hair, therefore there is no differentiation. I know you can make me see it. Don’t you see it’s red, don’t you see it’s tied back. Don’t you see the ear? But if I don’t need to see it, I don’t see it. Is there anything wrong with that? See, you think that if you don’t see the differentiation, you’re not going to having fun. It’s darn boring. Are you in for a surprise? The reason you need the differentiation is because you’re not okay inside and it distracts you and you need to be distracted because what’s going on in there is no fun.

So if this is the color I like, oh, I want to be around that. If I’m into male female, I want to be around that. If I like be how’s, I want to be around that. If I don’t like big housing, people are wasting money. I’m al right. In other words, you need to distract yourself from yourself. If I leave you alone, you’re bored to death. You don’t call ’em distractions. You call them entertainment. Were you entertained by the movie? No. It was boring. What does that mean? It didn’t take me away from myself. I sat right there worrying about money and this and that the whole time during the movie. Was it entertaining? Yes. I lost myself completely in it for two hours. I didn’t even know where I was. Oh, you like that, don’t you? It’s because you’re not okay inside that you need the duality. You need differentiation. You need there to be things that distract you from yourself and so you just come up with them. Then you think about what you want and what you don’t want. It’s all about distraction. Come on, here’s a three karat stone. What kind of stone is it? It’s a diamond. He gave it to us an engagement ring. You took it immediately to a jeweler. Is it flaws? Well, way down under 6,000, microscope magnification, there is a little line halfway. Oh, he doesn’t love me.

Are we weird? Just answer me. Am I convincing you? Yeah, how weird we are. You need there to be differentiation. Why? Because you’re not okay. And you say that if it’s a perfect diamond, I am more okay. That means somebody likes me. Look what I have a perfect diamond. There’s no difference between one with a flow without a flux. If you said so now you understand duality and you’re starting to get non-duality. So non-duality is not a cold state because you didn’t lose your consciousness in this state of duality that things have to be exactly the way you want, exactly the way you want. It’s not enough that I say I love you, but if I say it like this, Hey, I love you too. Oh no. The tone matters the time at every single thing. So you’re in trouble. If I’m not non dual, I’m not making those distinctions.

I think it’s wonderful if you say I love you and I think it’s wonderful if you don’t, I am not judging that way. I’m not doing it so I get to be happy all the time. I get to feel joy all the time. The joy you need for things to be the way you want them to be. Somebody wearing the clothes that you want, talking the way you want, treating the way you want, every single thing has to be the way you want. What if you don’t need that? What if you’re not into that? You are fine with the cars that drive by somebody else tell the story and tell the soul. Somebody else sees a mustang drive by an LA freeway. There’s thousands of cars driving by, but that one looks like your girlfriend’s car and there’s somebody cuddling up to that person when they drove by at 70 miles an hour.

I think there was. You’re not okay until a good explanation gets made and prove it. Okay, so the non-dual state is where the joy you feel when things are the way you want is the joy you feel all the time. It’s called unconditional wellbeing, not conditional wellbeing. See the distinction and you see how it fits in a non-dual state, the less that things need to be the way you want, the better off you are. Okay? It’s always how a non-dual state is not a state of dead boring. It’s the opposite. It’s a state of total unconditional wellbeing. Unconditional love. Let’s say I love you if we fall in love, that’s really beautiful. How hard is it to fall out of love? How hard for you to do one single thing that I don’t feel so much love right now? That’s because you’re in the dual state.

You’ve defined how they have to be for you to be open. What if it’s unconditional love? Period. You’re in a bad mood. You said something fine, adorable, fine, take some time for yourself. You’re okay because I’m just trying to show don’t think of non-dual as the great zen non dual say. Look on the web, the whole movement about non-duality as a philosophy of things. I’m not talking you about that. I’m talking about your everyday life. Notice it differently. Non-dual and dual because there are plenty of things you’re not dual about that other people are duall about. Guess who’s better off? You’re free. It’s liberation. Now you understand liberation. You’re a free being in that area. If you were fine before it happened, you’re fine after it happened, the river’s extreme pour into the ocean. It doesn’t overstep its vows. There’s a state of complete peace, not bad.

That’s what the high spiritual state is. So the more you can be non-dual about not suppressing, not denying, that’s not non-dual. If I’m upset about this and I push it away, I push it away. That’s not non-dual. That’s a mess. I stored my duality inside. I made a mess with myself. It’s when you truly don’t see the difference. Why? Because you don’t need to. You have nothing going. That’s what it’s all about. Having nothing going, just being you’re not doing something, you’re not doing something. You’re just there. How do you just be there by not having any reason to be any results. You’re just there. You’re there and you’re experiencing what is and there’s nothing inside of you that’s changing because it turned out like that. Let’s looking at that now, ultimately the great state is you become that way about everything. How do you do that?

Let’s talk about that. How do you move toward the non-dual state, which is a state of enlightenment, which is a state of total oneness, which is a state of me with the whole universe, you no longer have a need to be, you die to be reborn. That’s Christ. Christ is non-dual. He sat there in the garden, said, may I pass this cup? What cup? The dual one. So I have to go through that and the minute he said that, what did he say? I’m sorry. Not my will but thy will and never open his mouth again. Forgave everybody for forgiven. They know what to do. He was in a non-dual state. That’s why I say my father, I won to him. The whole universe was just the manifestation of God and let it be what it is. And he surrendered completely, right? We did the same thing.

So it’s not that you have the need for differentiation, but renounce it. People think I talk against renunciation, I’m talking against anything. I just want you to understand your options. I want you to understand the deep truths. Are we in the non-dual state? No. What are you in the dual state about? The things that I’ve stored inside of me. I have preferences. I have things that need to be a certain way for me to be okay and if things are not that way, I’m either disappointed or I’m freaked out. Is it the way I don’t want and I spent my whole life trying to buy into that and make things outside be the way I need ’em to be so I’m okay inside your entire life. You’re going to do that as opposed to learning to let go of that stuff. Not keep it inside, not hold it inside, not suppress it so that you can be whole with the rain.

You be whole with the cold, be whole with whatever’s happening is this weather. I teach ’em my books and I wish you’d understand. The weather can be your guru. You can literally get as high with the weather as your guru, as you can’t sit next to a light master. What do you mean? Because you can’t handle the weather. You complain all the time. I don’t want to get out in the rain. My favorite is why is that the rain on my birthday? It doesn’t know it’s your birthday, but you are so dualistic that your birthday is different than every other day to the rain, is it? No. And so what you need to do is learn how to become more non-dual but not by suppressing. Alright? How does one do that? Well, first you understand what’s going on. You have stored inside of you things that you either liked or didn’t like and now you’re dual about them.

They either were pleasant or they were unpleasant and you’re seriously dual about them. You like the ones that were pleasant, you don’t like the ones that are unpleasant and you throw them inside. Now that anything that happens, you become totally dualistic. Weird, weird, weird. You never noticed that People can be weird. You look at what are you doing? Something doesn’t matter. Who cares? Who’s sitting with who? What’s matter with you? No, it means he’s cheating on me. He’s talking to somebody. You can get that way, can’t you? Okay, that’s the ultimate of dualistic. I have all these preferences, all these concepts of views and hopes and dreams and all that kind of junk. So I’m in trouble. So the first thing you do is understand. First I want you to understand the nondual state, it’s a very high state. It’s complete enlightenment. When the whole universe becomes one, you have merged with God.

There’s nothing dual, it’s all just creation. See we said it’s just people on the planet earth. Then it’s just the planet earth. It’s creation. There’s just creation going on there. You’re a very high being, alright, how do we get there? You start by understanding why you’re not there. You’re not there because you store all this junk inside of you and therefore you became walking around dualistic being what does do likes and dislikes. What did Buddhist say? All life is suffering. It’s the cause of suffering. Preference. He used the word desire, right? What is a desire? A preference. Can it be such a thing? Desire without a preference. I like the word preference. It’s easier to see. He made duality. You have a preference. I want it to be this way. I don’t want it be that way. And they say how to end all suffering.

Let go of your desires. Let go of your preferences. Again, I use the word preferences. It’s much easier for you to digest than what your desires. Alright, so basically how do you do this? You understand why you’re not there. You’re not there because you suppressed and held this stuff inside and you built a whole house inside you. I talked about that yesterday. You built a whole house inside yourself based on the stuff you stored. I’m the person who likes this. I’m just running out like that. I’m the person that broke my arm when I was young. I’m the person. This person treated me bad and men are stupid thing and the girls dump me and I hate women. Okay? Just all the stuff I went through, I stored inside of me and then I sewed it together and I made a me. Here I am, come and get it.

Okay, so you made a dualistic machine out of yourself. The consciousness that is aware of that is not dual. What do you mean? It’s the closest thing to non-duality? Well, hopefully you’ll get far enough free on that, but you are right now, there’s a state of your being. Do you ever feel love? Do you ever feel disdain? Not liking? How do you know? How do you know? Is it the same? You? Who feels the love as you? Who feels the disdain is the same? You who whatever you see the same. You seeing it the same you that knows this night, that knows this day. Same you that goes in your dreams and sees the dreams. Your consciousness is non-dual right now. Your consciousness is non-dual. There’s only one of you in there, but it’s looking at multiplicity raised thousand power that says looking at so you don’t understand.

But the self is non-dual all the time. Always has been, always will be. You in there yesterday, were you in there five years ago? Yes. You’re just having different experiences. You’re looking at different things, having different thoughts, different emotions, a different body. It looks totally different when you’re five years old when you’re 50, but it’s you in there looking at it. Okay, so you do have the non-dual state, but you can’t stay there. You can’t even begin. Most people don’t even know they’re in there. That’s what I teach. Ever since I first saw it back in, my God, when was 69? Something like that? 70. I watched my mind talk. Wow, why is it doing that? You know what? It’s always done that you start noticing instead of being it. Okay? And anyone I’ve ever talked to, most of ’em, they wake up, they realize, oh, you are in there, but you can’t stay there.

You can’t the minute anything happens that touches your stuff, you fall down, you’ve lost it and come back. Oh, where did I go? And sometimes I come back and say, maybe you fell down when you were 22 and you kind of woke up when you’re 65, you’re in there. How do you bridge that gap? How do you move toward the non-dual? Now that I’m showing you the non-dual is God. God is non-dual, the Lord or God. The Lord is one. So first you understand the problem. The problem is you stored this stuff inside because everyone has different preferences based on past experiences and as long as that is going on in there, you’re going to get pulled down into it. It’s an addiction pulls you down into it. So first thing is to say, okay, I got this stuff in me. Don’t fight. There’s no fighting going on here.

It’s not about fighting with your thoughts, fight with your emotions, fight with the world. Nope, I did that for years. I do not teach you that. I don’t want you doing that. I want you to see you got to mess in there, don’t you? There have problems in there. You can’t be okay with those problems in there. You can’t push them away enough as say, I’m okay, you can make believe. I ain’t going to do it. We got to get ’em out. How? Well, if you try to let them out, you’re going to have trouble. Why? Because they don’t feel good. That’s why you store ’em down there. I didn’t want to experience this, but it happened. I don’t care. Just because it happened doesn’t mean I have to experience it. It really does mean that. By the way, if it happened and it came in, you have to experience it.

No, I can push it away, suppress it, renounce it, deny it, ignore it, right? I can push it away and keep pushing it away so I don’t have to feel it. Yes you can. Did you know can do that, right? Freud told you that. The great yogis told you that a thousand thousand years before Freud, because they saw that was keeping them from going up, that they’d shove that stuff down there. Okay? While it’s down there, it’s going to get hit. Why The world is a terrible place. It hits my stuff. No, no, no. The world is neither for you or against you. It’s just going about its business based on the laws of physics and chemistry and psychology, it just unfolds. You have this veil that you built around you so that you’re looking through that veil to look at the world. So it’s always hitting your stuff.

Why? Because you’re hanging your stuff out there. I don’t like this kind of person. I’m prejudice. Why did I have to move next door to me? Somebody moved. It’s not next door to you. It has nothing to do with you, but it does to you because you look through the veil of your personal stuff and that’s what you see. You do understand, don’t you? That stuff you stored in there is like film and your consciousness goes through the all time film, right? Goes through it and projects outside. That’s all you see. Somebody’s wearing the same clothes, you do a party. They’re not saying that they’re close, you’re having trouble. What are you doing? Trouble? Because you’re projecting the stuff you stored inside and that’s what you see. You project it out there so it’s going to hit your stuff. So you start catching on. It’s because I have the stuff in here.

Then I’m having trouble. It’s going to have the stuff in here that I have to make life be away and I mean all of life, every minute that doesn’t hit my stuff or hits the nice stuff. My brother used to talk to me this way and so on and I love it. Oh my god, I love you. Talk to me like that. I bumped into you in Publix and you happen to be a serial killer, but I don’t know that because you talk to me, the one my brother did, I love you. Okay? So you catch on that. It’s you projecting yourself out onto life and if you go out there and try to manipulate the things that are happening, so they always hit your, I can’t talk about, it’s so weird. You’re projecting it out there to think that’s what you’re looking at and then you’re trying to manipulate.

It’s what keeps looking like what one, I don’t know. It’s too complicated. There’s a lot of work, isn’t it? That’s like when you fall from the garden, as the Bible say, you must now work by the sweat of your brow to be okay. Know anything about that. Every work by the other brow to get everything I got to say into words to get everything outside to look like they’re projecting it to be. I decided how I want you to be. Are you that way? Of course you’re not that way. You’re a totally different person than me. You do not have the same stuff inside. You do not go through the same experiences. So my way is totally different than yours, but I’m projecting my way onto you and now you better behave in the way that matches what I’m projecting onto you. What’s the probability?

Zero. That’s why relationships was so hard. That person is not the same as you. Even if you’re married 20 years, you did not stay together every minute for those 20 years. He went to work, he did this. So you’re different every day. You have more experiences, relationships can be beautiful. I tell you, I have relationships. Here’s a beautiful relationship. You got your stuff, I got mine. I’ll tell you what, I’ll help you let go of yours. If you help me, let go of mine, not if you match mine. I’ll stay with you and I’ll try to match yours. Just put a little sign up in the morning how you want me to be that day and I’ll try to be No, no, that’s a terrible relationship because it is basically saying I don’t want to change. I want to keep my stuff. You match my stuff.

Okay, I’ll hang out with you. You don’t match my stuff. Goodbye. Alright, so now you notice that the problem is the amount of duality you’ve created in your life everywhere because there’s stuff you stored in there and you realize the only one will be okay if I get it out. Is that such a thing as getting it out there is such a thing as getting it out. What if it’s really strong and I’ve had it in there for a very long time and I’m scared to death to even think about it. There’s a way to get it out, period. All of it from past lives, all of it.

You took birth on the planet earth to get rid of that stuff. Earth is a place that souls are sent to evolve and you are evolving, but you’re fighting it. So how do you do it? How do you go about this? You know what I teach you? Do not start with the stuff that’s freaking you out. You not start with the big stuff. There’s no way you’re not capable. You won’t do it. You’ll do it for a little while, then you’ll freak out. You start by not putting more in. What good is it to get out? What’s in there? If you’re going to put more in every day and listen to me, you put more in every day and don’t you doubt me one iota, you’re walking by and you see a good friend of yours talking to somebody you don’t like. You’re now a different person.

Next time you see the person that you’re were friends with, you’re going to either ask them, what were you doing talking to them? What are you talking about? You left something in there from some stupid experience that you’re just passing by or you’ll be very evolved. I don’t want to make a thing out of it. You already, I don’t want to make a thing out of it. I’m not going to say anything good. You’ll never be that friendly with that person ever again. Your heart will not open again. You will not trust them. Do you understand that? That’s how sensitive you are. That’s how absurd it is. You strut stuff inside of you. So the answer is not renounced. The answer is not talk about it. The answer is we need some techniques to not store anymore. Because naturally you’re going to store anything that bothers you at all.

Even a thought. What if Sally’s talking to George? Oh my God, she might tell him what I did three years ago. That will get you upset enough. Now you don’t like Sally and you hate George. Can you do that with a thought? How much duality are you creating? That’s unbelievable. You’re a duality creating machine. You just do it all the time. Now you don’t like him. You can’t talk about that. You can’t man. Every day you store more stuff. That’s where you start. You start by saying, I don’t have to do that. I may not be able to go to big stuff right now and reach total ality. Don’t even try. But I don’t have to store that stupid little stuff drive in front of me. The weather, the birthday thing. What if it’s your birthday and you’re the kind of person that likes big deals about their birthday?

Then what happens is you see somebody and they forgot it was your birthday low into them. That’s so funny. They do anniversary. Don’t even think about it. You don’t forget that thing. Have I exaggerated? No. How about we work with that simple stuff. I call it low hanging fruit and go through the day without storing anymore. It’s a video game. It’s fun. Just make it fun. And then the morning you wake up. This is my technique to you. I don’t teach meditation. I meditate. I don’t teach meditation. By all means. Meditation. It’s wonderful, but you got to do this in addition. Or there be a place that you could escape. You got to wake up in the morning and say, I am going to go through this day consciously not storing more stuff and at the end of the day you will failed. You sit down and take a look.

What did I store in here today? And do your best to let it go. Now I’ve always limited time. What do you mean do your best to let it go? There are techniques that are very usable and very easy and very practical. They quote neutralization, something came in, you saw it hit you. You know it hits you. You know, did not like that. The person didn’t wish a happy birthday and your mind, oh, birthday, happy my friend. I had stupid stuff. Okay? Right then the moment you sit, don’t fight it. Just notice. Oh, there it is. Make. It was talking about if I don’t deal with this, it’s going to be there tomorrow. And if I don’t see the prison for a week, it’s going to be there a week later, isn’t it? I don’t want it to be there, but no buts. See, that’s where you get strict.

I don’t want it to be there. I don’t want to rationalize why it should be there. I don’t want to talk about what if they don’t do it again. I don’t want to do that. I just don’t want it to be there because I know when it’s there, it messed up my life and I don’t want to mess up my life. I don’t care why you didn’t know my birthday. I forgot my birthday. I don’t care. I don’t care. What I care about is not putting more garbage inside myself and making it so I can’t open my heart and be friends with you. That’s what I care about. That has to be your intention. Then what do you do? I give you techniques all the time. What a really, really nice one. Step off the planet for a minute in your mind, use your mind.

That’s using the intellectual mind instead of the personal mind. It works for me all the time. Just step off the planet. See that beautiful? I got pictured all over the place. Picture of a beautiful little ball flown in space. What exactly bothered you? Somebody burped. What extra person got into the elevator? Why? That’s so crowded. How long you in the elevator? 30 seconds. Well, let’s make a thing out of it. Let’s not. You can step back. You can do all kinds of things like stop for a minute. The planet’s been here for 4.5 billion years. Don’t you listen to that number and ignore it. How big 4.5 billion years is? Go into a corner and counter 4.5 billion, one second at a time. Get your calculator out. You’ll see it’s probably a few lifetimes. How long it’ll be here? 80, 90. That’s not hard. That’s a minute and a half and you’re making a big deal.

Out of what? Out of every single thing. Neutralize before it gets stored, neutralize it. And if it gets stored, you couldn’t do it right away. Let go. Why should I let go? You don’t want it in there. That’s the only reason I want to see what it would be like to be free and the world’s not going to help me. It’s not going to be the way I want it to be. That’s what freedom means. Freedom isn’t getting what you want. Freedom is getting rid of you. Okay? And so you start working. That’s real work. And there’s lots of other techniques you’ll find. I gave you a little one about let the language change. Somebody’s talking to you. I would think it’s neat. Somebody’s yelling at you. It’s fun. And the other language, some language is sound like they’re yelling all the time. Alright, play with it.

Make it fun. It’s an internal video game that’s always there to play. Alright? And you’re going to find out you’re much happier, even that just with the simple little things. But the fringe benefit is not just you didn’t make a mess of yourself during the day. You learned how to let go. You learned how to not the rationalization of you don’t understand my childhood, what I went through. My parents got divorced, I hated my stepfather and he drank. How old are you now? When did it happen? But from five to eight, how old are you now? 60.

Can you do it with that? I told you neutralizing the past should be the easiest thing. It’s not, but it should be the easiest thing for you. Why? It’s not going to happen again. They’re not going to get divorced again. In fact, they’re all dead. But you still do that. Okay? How about using the logic of your mind? See, spirituality is not non logical. It’s very logical. It’s not logical is what you do with life. It’s totally ridiculous. So you start being very logical and you let go. I don’t want to hold my past in here. I do. It’s there, it hurts. Talk about it, but it’s not going to be there very long, right? I learned a while ago, I don’t fight with him. It’s not his fault. He’s messed up. It’s my fault. I’m the one that couldn’t handle what happened. I’ve shoved it down there and now I built a psyche that’s neurotic, that’s ultra sensitive. So if I look at him and he’s doing something, I used to look at him and say, it’s okay. It’s okay. Your days are numbered.

It’s not going to stay that way, but we don’t have to do it right now. And this other thing, I used to play all these tricks with him. He’d want something, he’d want some chocolate. And I was strict in those days. I want some chocolate. I found out if I say no, you can’t have chocolate. And then there’s a whole thing about chocolate every time walk by. And so I started saying to him, yes, of course you can have chocolate. He could look outside. You can have chocolate. We’ll do it tomorrow and say every time you do it tomorrow. And he’s so stupid, he got excited. It’s like a dog. It’s a dog you trained today. Have fun. That’s the difference from when I started this journey, right? It’s fun. You’re liberating yourself. And now I’ve painted this picture of the Nadu. The more you don’t make a thing out of things, the less dual you are.

Now I can see Sally, even though she talked to George, I let it go inside myself now about that one thing. And you’ll keep more and more and all of a sudden you’re going to find out there’s this joy inside of you. You’re made of joy. You just made this mess. And then the higher states, the real higher states are when you literally start seeing, there’s a line in the show, Gita that we sing every morning. The man who has seen God see’s God everywhere. That is not just a piece of poetry. You just see God created the universe and he made everybody and he made everything. And he’s making everything. He is the quantum field underneath vibrating of his consciousness that all of it manifests. All of creation always did. There’s nothing but God. Oh my God. Okay, we have a very interesting talk tonight.

I’ve never talked that much about non-duality, but it’s good to see that. So you can see it a lot. It goes there, right? But if you don’t deal with it in your everyday life, don’t give me intellectual stuff. You understand nondual. You understand a single thing. It’s just all mind talk. If you work the way I taught you to and work your way up, now all of a sudden your thoughts get uncomfortable. The thoughts a cloud. It’s just something. Believe me, it’ll go away. Don’t worry about it. And you learn to just let go of the duality you’ve created inside yourself, okay? And all of a sudden you move toward oneness. Alright? Thank you for listening. Ative.

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