Amy Scher: How to Heal Yourself From Depression When No One Else Can

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February 2, 2021

Amy Scher: How to Heal Yourself From Depression When No One Else Can

Amy Scher February 2, 2021

Amy Scher is an energy therapist, mind-body healing expert, and the bestselling author of How to Heal Yourself From Depression When No One Else Can. She has worked with organizations such as the Department of Psychiatry at Stanford University and New York Presbyterian Hospital. With Sounds True, she has published the book, How to Heal Yourself from Depression When No One Else Can: A Self-Guided Program to Stop Feeling Like Sh*t. In this podcast, Tami Simon meets with Amy Scher in conversation about how our thoughts, beliefs, and emotions directly affect the physical body; changing your inner landscape as an important element in healing; our greatest fear: being who we really are; energy psychology practices and techniques; self-healing from depression; and much more.

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Meet Your Host: Tami Simon

Founded Sounds True in 1985 as a multimedia publishing house with a mission to disseminate spiritual wisdom. She hosts a popular weekly podcast called Insights at the Edge, where she has interviewed many of today's leading teachers. Tami lives with her wife, Julie M. Kramer, and their two spoodles, Rasberry and Bula, in Boulder, Colorado.

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